Thoughts on "Talking"

Students make judgments about teacher effectiveness based on how well the teacher manages student noise in classroom contexts like openings, transitions, instruction, and questions.  I have interviewed many junior high and high school students who have had my student teachers.   I ask them, “Is this student teacher going to be a good teacher?”  If they say “No,” the first thing they mention is noise management.  “It’s too noisy in here.”  “He doesn’t stop kids from talking when they should be paying attention.” The first topic that student teacher supervisors mention in assessing effectiveness is the student teacher’s ability to effectively manage student talking. Experienced classroom students and their effective teachers recognize that there are appropriate student noise levels for each session context. Novice teachers have a harder time knowing when “a little noise” is going to cause “more noise” later and how to get it under control.  Let’s take a look at individual student, small group and large group talking during critical contexts and episodes.

 

There are several dimensions to student(s) talking in class.

 

                   What is the teacher trying to do?

                   When in the class session is the talking happening?

                   How many students are talking?

                   What is the talking about?

                   How loud is the talking?

 

Pre-Instruction

 

In the Pre-Instruction context, you can expect students to talk with each other in a conversational tone of voice as they come into the classroom and get seated.  The teacher might even be talking with some of them.  What the students talk about together is up to them.  You would like the topics to be about what is needed for class and assignments, but that is a long shot.  Some teachers have a regular daily activity for students, once they are in the room and in their seat.  Daily Oral Language activities come to mind or science “teaser” questions on the board.  A math challenge will work.  I have seen teachers post a “vocabulary word of the day” with definition and usage example. These are accumulated in a folder. The teacher and students “over use” the word during the class session. If students get too loud in this context, the noise level needs to be lowered.  Telling individual students to lower their tone of voice does this. Students expect this and look for it.  Do it in a businesslike tone of voice.

 

Session Openings

 

The bell signals the end to the Pre-Instruction context and should be the signal to students to start listening.  If the teacher is ready to open the class, they can take advantage of the bell signal to say something like “That was the bell. You need to be in your seats and ready to start class.”  Then you start your opening.  This opening routine should become a habit.  The teacher’s verbal and nonverbal behaviors signal the expectation to stop talking, pay attention and start the session. When you are opening the session everyone should be quiet and listening.  If they are not, then you wait 5-15 seconds max, stare at the offenders, use names, but stay in front of the class, scanning the class and expecting quiet.  I have known teachers to say “ The longer it takes you to get ready, the less time you will have at the end of class to visit quietly with each other. John, lets get ready.” 

 

During Instruction

 

The most serious talking problem is when students continue talking to each other while the teacher is talking or instructing.  Effective teachers often continue what they are doing but walk near the offending students.  This usually works.  Quietly remind them that “The rule in this classroom is that when I am talking, you should be listening.  It’s time to listen, so you will better understand what we are doing.” This should be done quietly, in a businesslike tone of voice and with direct eye contact. You aren’t smiling.  You are all business. If this has no effect, then you ask them to stop by your desk on the way out of class.  You could try this.  Go up to the student’s desk and say the following in a very quiet understated tone.  “If you won’t listen, then I will have to move you. This is the warning.  You make the choice on your behavior.  Now you know the next consequence.  If I move you, I call your parents.  If they don’t care, then someone in ISS will.  You are good students.  Make good choices.  Do you understand?”  No smile.  All business.  Glare. 

When you are talking, or another student is asking or answering a question, everyone else should be quiet.  This HAS to be enforced until it becomes a habit.  If a student does not get quiet, you can insist on a Post-Instruction conference with something like “Bill, stop by my desk before you leave class.”   If your get pressed on why, just say, “You aren’t listening when you should be.”  “You are talking when I am talking.  Start making better choices or I will call your parents.” 

 

During Transitions

 

Some student noise or talk during a transition between activities is fine as long as they are accomplishing the transition in a reasonable amount of time.  Whatever talking occurs should be conversational in tone and related to executing the transition.  You should monitor the students most likely to not cooperate.  Start the transition near them. They will feel more accountable to you.

 

Classroom Discussions

 

The teacher calling on students who raise their hands manages effective student discussions.  Recognize hands.  If someone is not raising their hand and is calling out answers, then you say, “Until you raise your hand, nobody recognizes you and I don’t call on you.  Simple rule.  Easy to follow.  Nothing-new here.  You are seniors.”

 

Small Group Instruction/Labs

 

There is usually talking in small groups.  It’s the content and volume that is the issue. After you have put the students in their groups, given them directions (write them out) and asked for questions, circulate around the room stopping at each group. Do this at least twice early in the session.  Quiet down the noisy groups with your proximity and something like “Your group is too noisy.  You need to quiet down so others can work.”  Stare at the noisiest kid.  He or she will get the message and the others won’t feel picked on.

 

Closing the Session

 

I regularly used the class session closing to comment on student behavior during the session.  “You did a good job of paying attention today.  I know this is not your only class and the topic was difficult.  Thank you.”   I let them talk quietly among themselves in their seats.  I tried to leave a few minutes at the end of class for this.  This visit time was always after my closing and depended on the cooperation of the class during the session.

 

Foul Language in the Classroom

 

No swearing.  No name-calling.  Once it gets started and seems OK, it is hard to stop.  You hear someone swear.  Don’t ignore it.  Stop everything.  Walk up to the student and say very quietly “I decide what is swearing.  You were swearing.  The consequences are detentions.  Stop by my desk after class.”  At your desk you say,  “I don’t like that word.  I don’t like it in here because not everybody wants to hear it and its offensive to some students. I am responsible for everyone.  Consider yourself warned, OK?”  Expect to see a nod or hear a “Yes.”  I sometimes insist on an apology to me.  “Now, I want to hear an apology and I want it to be sincere.”  I had a student teacher who asked me what to do when a student called her a “white bitch.”  I said, you should have stopped everything and asked, “Are you talking to me?”  If the answer is “yes” then you say, “I thought so, but I wanted to make sure.”  You send another student to the main office to get a disciplinarian who takes the student out of the class.  Then you look at the rest or the class and say, “No way I have to listen to or you need to hear what was just said.  He does not come back into this classroom until he apologizes to me in front of you.”  Make it stick.  It will never happen again. You get the respect that you insist on.  They have enough friends.  They don’t need any more friends.  They need successful adult role models.

 

Classroom Tests

 

During a classroom test nobody should be talking.  If a student has a question, then they should raise their hand and wait for you to come to their desk.  A classroom test context should be stone cold quiet except for questions asked by students.  You say this in the opening, “If you have a question, raise your hand and I will come to your desk to answer it.”

 

Students With Attention and Hyperactive Challenges

 

Students with ADD or any kind of impulse disorder have a hard time in conventional 50-minute classroom sessions.  They sometimes shout out information that has nothing to do with the lesson.  This can be very disruptive in a classroom filled with 25-30 students trying to listen or contribute.  Make sure you understand if any meds are being taken or have been missed.  Speaking to the student in advance of beginning a session or activity insures that they know what is expected.  I have recorded lessons and given the recording to the student.  If another teacher has had the student, talk with them about what verbal commands worked with the student.  Talking with the parents will be appreciated.  They see the same behavior at home and may have suggestions.  The student may have an IEP that includes suggestions.  These are never easy situations.  Never bring up the topic of medications with the student.  Ask the counselor, parent, nurse, but never the student.

 

How You Are Addressed by Students

 

Calling you by your first name or something way too familiar is trouble.  Don’t yell, but be dead serious.  You say, “Come here.  What’s this Doug stuff?  My name is Mr. Brooks.  Is there any confusion about my name?  Yes or No?  Never again."

 

Overhearing Topics of Serious Concern

 

Now and again you will hear students talking about something too dangerous to ignore.  Don’t ignore it.  Take whatever action is necessary.  If it’s drugs, bullying, breaking the law, sex, a knife or gun, a plan to do something wrong, cheating, other teachers, problems at home, problems with boy or girl friends, abuse or whatever.  Arrange to meet with the student and other appropriate school personnel.  If they come to you for advice then listen, advise or get them to someone who can help them.

 

In closing, controlling student talking is about knowing how much and how loud the talking should be in the particular context of your classroom session.  Effective classroom managers know how to listen for the volume levels and types of student talking.  They decide what to do based on what they are trying to accomplish when it is happening.

 

Dr. Douglas Brooks is a Professor in the Department of Teacher Education in the School of Education, Health and Society at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio.  He teaches graduate and undergraduate courses in classroom management.

Web Hosting Companies